Honing for Beginners

Re: Honing for Beginners

Postby Thug » Sat Aug 08, 2015 8:11 pm

Here's a very interesting video of setting a bevel and honing only with a Suehiro Gokumyo 20k stone.

part 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_PuRbR95gE

part 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aygf_GsiUPk

And the thread over on SRP.

http://straightrazorplace.com/hones/122 ... iment.html
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Re: Honing for Beginners

Postby RiverValleyTrading » Sun Aug 09, 2015 9:53 am

Thug wrote:Here's a very interesting video of setting a bevel and honing only with a Suehiro Gokumyo 20k stone.

part 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_PuRbR95gE

part 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aygf_GsiUPk

And the thread over on SRP.

http://straightrazorplace.com/hones/122 ... iment.html



Thanks very much for the links. Did you manage to find that magnifying scope you were after?
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Re: Honing for Beginners

Postby Thug » Sun Aug 09, 2015 5:24 pm

RiverValleyTrading wrote:

Thanks very much for the links. Did you manage to find that magnifying scope you were after?


I did but it's absolute crap.

Will get myself a USB Microscope rather.
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Re: Honing for Beginners

Postby RiverValleyTrading » Sun Aug 09, 2015 5:35 pm

Thug wrote:
RiverValleyTrading wrote:

Thanks very much for the links. Did you manage to find that magnifying scope you were after?


I did but it's absolute crap.

Will get myself a USB Microscope rather.


After chatting to a Jeweller, I purchased one of these :http://www.capewatch.co.za/led-light-30-x-m0149 The website says 30x but it's actually a 40x magnifier)

Seems to work quite well, but takes some getting used to (to get distance just right to bring everything into focus). I actually saw a little dull spot in one of my blades and got it sorted on the Chrome Oxide strop. Prolonged use does cause eye strain though. I don't know how the jewellers and watch makers do it. :shock:
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Re: Honing for Beginners

Postby panthera » Sun Aug 09, 2015 5:49 pm

RiverValleyTrading wrote:
Thug wrote:
RiverValleyTrading wrote:

Thanks very much for the links. Did you manage to find that magnifying scope you were after?


I did but it's absolute crap.

Will get myself a USB Microscope rather.


After chatting to a Jeweller, I purchased one of these :http://www.capewatch.co.za/led-light-30-x-m0149 The website says 30x but it's actually a 40x magnifier)

Seems to work quite well, but takes some getting used to (to get distance just right to bring everything into focus). I actually saw a little dull spot in one of my blades and got it sorted on the Chrome Oxide strop. Prolonged use does cause eye strain though. I don't know how the jewellers and watch makers do it. :shock:


What do you look for when inspecting a blade with these magnifiers? I often wonder if they are more accurate than all of the various other tests!
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Re: Honing for Beginners

Postby RiverValleyTrading » Sun Aug 09, 2015 6:10 pm

panthera wrote:What do you look for when inspecting a blade with these magnifiers? I often wonder if they are more accurate than all of the various other tests!


It makes the edge look huge so you can see the bevel is set evenly right across the edge. If you hold the blade at the right angle the light will catch it and reveal any dull spots or areas that might need some attention.
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Re: Honing for Beginners

Postby Thug » Sun Aug 09, 2015 7:23 pm

Thanks for the link RVT.

I was thinking of getting something like this:
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Re: Honing for Beginners

Postby RiverValleyTrading » Sun Aug 09, 2015 8:33 pm

Thug wrote:Thanks for the link RVT.

I was thinking of getting something like this:
http://www.bidorbuy.co.za/item/19604091 ... tions.html

Wow, that looks cool.

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Re: Honing for Beginners

Postby panthera » Tue Sep 22, 2015 4:53 pm

Just seen that there is a guy importing 1k/3k combo Naniwa's on BoB.. Not sure if this was already public knowledge..

Just emailed asking after a 12k Super Stone :D . Will feed back when I hear back.
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Re: Honing for Beginners

Postby HenkB » Thu Sep 24, 2015 4:10 am

Good day fellow men.

Where do you get any stones that are more than 8000 grit for finishing? Am looking for a 4k/8k combination, then i want a finishing stone before taking ro CrOx.
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Re: Honing for Beginners

Postby panthera » Thu Sep 24, 2015 5:22 am

HenkB wrote:Good day fellow men.

Where do you get any stones that are more than 8000 grit for finishing? Am looking for a 4k/8k combination, then i want a finishing stone before taking ro CrOx.
Many thanks


Looks at Norton for the 4k/8k combo, they can be imported through a guy on BoB (I have done it) and are very good quality.
Zulu Grey stones are made in SA- I don't know much about them but they are finishers. They are about the only finishing stone that I have heard of that is locally available.
As mentioned above I'm trying to see if one vendor can source the 12k Naniwa SS, these are regarded as one of the best finishers there are and work fine off an 8k stone. I'll let you know!
Otherwise CrOx off an 8k Norton also gives a very nice shave, I use that exact set up with one of my razors. Before you can shave comfortably off an 8k stone there isn't even a point wasting money on a finishing stone.
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Re: Honing for Beginners

Postby HenkB » Thu Sep 24, 2015 6:48 am

Thanks very much. I had a look on Amazon and there are some nice deals there currently wrt norton 4k/8k combo's.

I was thinking of going the zulu grey route, just wanted to hear if you have any other ideas.

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Re: Honing for Beginners

Postby panthera » Thu Sep 24, 2015 9:14 am

HenkB wrote:Thanks very much. I had a look on Amazon and there are some nice deals there currently wrt norton 4k/8k combo's.

I was thinking of going the zulu grey route, just wanted to hear if you have any other ideas.

Have a great day


Other people on the forum will know more, I only dipped my toe into the world of straight razors a short while ago :thumbup: .
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Re: Honing for Beginners

Postby RiverValleyTrading » Thu Sep 24, 2015 2:23 pm

panthera wrote:
HenkB wrote:Good day fellow men.

Where do you get any stones that are more than 8000 grit for finishing? Am looking for a 4k/8k combination, then i want a finishing stone before taking ro CrOx.
Many thanks


Looks at Norton for the 4k/8k combo, they can be imported through a guy on BoB (I have done it) and are very good quality.
Zulu Grey stones are made in SA- I don't know much about them but they are finishers. They are about the only finishing stone that I have heard of that is locally available.
As mentioned above I'm trying to see if one vendor can source the 12k Naniwa SS, these are regarded as one of the best finishers there are and work fine off an 8k stone. I'll let you know!
Otherwise CrOx off an 8k Norton also gives a very nice shave, I use that exact set up with one of my razors. Before you can shave comfortably off an 8k stone there isn't even a point wasting money on a finishing stone.


Hi Henk,

ShaveHavenSA is your man for the job. He just received a shipment of stones, and I'm sure he can source more.
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Re: Honing for Beginners

Postby HenkB » Thu Sep 24, 2015 2:38 pm

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Re: Honing for Beginners

Postby ShaveHavenSA » Fri Sep 25, 2015 3:12 pm

Hi Henk

Localy you get Zulu stones. Excellent stone but be prepared for the price. But that said if you import you can pay same or more. Best priced are the Norton stones 4/8.
I did get stones for myself from Japan recently. I will be getting more as thatexpensive Ortonst on the supplier. Just waiting for suppliers to get more stock. But also do not just buy any stone. Rather get the right one as this will last you long and is an expensive investment.
My recommendation on stones over 8k will be Naniwa, or email Zulu Grey and ask about there finishing stones. Norton also make a ceramic stone that work fantastic. Then there's also the Belgian Coticle, just a bit of a mission to buy but a absolute favourite of Italian barbers of the past.
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Re: Honing for Beginners

Postby panthera » Fri Sep 25, 2015 3:31 pm

I've just emailed Zulu Grey asking if they do a domestic price list to cater for the domestic market... worth a try I guess!
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Re: Honing for Beginners

Postby panthera » Fri Sep 25, 2015 3:52 pm

Guys, 25% off for local customers. Can't say fairer then that :-). They may have a new customer out of me!
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Re: Honing for Beginners

Postby ShaveHavenSA » Fri Sep 25, 2015 5:23 pm

Thats good news. Just make sure you specify tje size of the stone and expected grit. These are natural stones so grits vary.
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Re: Honing for Beginners

Postby Thug » Fri Sep 25, 2015 5:33 pm

Just a word of caution.

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